speedfreak12345

I'd say between $200 - $300 and let them know that they are not keeping the copyrights. So as to avoid any future legalities.
You said you want to use them in the future and this is your first shot anyway. Keep them happy (cheap), and yourself (education and referral business)!!!!!

whomung

If this project is for a Vinyard/Winery in Sonoma..... They already have money.... I'd bet one (1) of their thousands of grape plants probably cost more than $200..... And they are intending to use your creativity to make MORE MONEY....... Your purpose in all that is strictly to help them present themselves in a way that increases their success..... right.... it's markiting and branding.

How much is it worth?.... I dunno..... I suppose it depends on (1) if you need the work; (2) if you've done this before and can verify positive results... (3) if it's good exposure for you;. (4) who keeps the rights... will they use your music only on the web.... or for other purposes.... like a TV commercial? Are you a credited contributor?.... etc.

I just hate to see artists work for peanuts helping the rich get richer.... So try to see the value they want to recieve from their perspective.... it's worth more.

As far as 50% to start..... I dunno.... If this is for a new winery, these guys are probably just used to being invoiced... I'd say agreeing on a price upfront, and when you're going to get paid are two things,

and if this site is going to be backed up with print ads, radio ads (including your music?) and a url on the bottles label.... it's ivery mportant to their business.... so there obviously has to be some place for them to say "we don't like what you gave us"....

it could wind up longer than 10 hours.... I'd suggest you offering them three different tunes to choose from to begin with, and include time for feedback meetings, and some time to fine tune the loop they like best.... Now you're maybe up to a week of work.... Plus overhead and profit.... they want to use your talent to help them make a profit... why shouldn't you have a profit percentage.... it's the american way

If you can sell it.

On the other hand, if this is the first time you've done it.... and figure the exposure for you'll get is ultimately what has the most value for you.... don't worry about the money... just get the job and do it well.....

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lumi

i would say 300. it's fair for 2 minutes loop. that you have to study flash to finish the job is another thing. take it as a challenge and learn, later you become more and more professional.
good luck,
lumi

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zobor

I've always had a problem with setting the price. Normally between 200-500..depends on the job I do.