Tableless CSS web design?

[jetinter]

What is your opinion on the trend towards tableless CSS designs, and the idea that all formatting should be removed from the content.

I use some css for site design, but sometimes find the pressure to use all CSS can drag out completion time in order to hack my way around browser limitations.

If you would share your well-qualified opinions, I would be most appreciative.

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[TheHipster]

Hey jetinter, I would recommend using CSS for text formatting only, and using HTML tables for layout. I think that this way you are capitalizing in each of the strong points that each program has to offer and that will save you time and increase efficiency.

[rafiki]

Why using tables for layout is stupid.

[hrvoje461]

I think it is much easier to do it table less. That is advantage of using css table based layouts but in other hand it depends on you. If it is easier to you to build table based layouts than do it that way.

[rhino-matic]

I have to agree with hipster on this. I am either old or old skool i don't know.
I tried to read most of the article link rafiki posted but i disagree with it. I am probably one of the quiltiest of stuffing tables in tables but the article seemed to overcomplicate how to use them. I actually read rafiki's post on "background image not fully showing" before this one and my immediate answer was to make you a nice table. I figured before blurting out make a table i'd check the html then noticed it used css. Very interesting and i see the benefits.
As for me i would put the buttons in a table with rows then add your buttons. It just seems simpler to me this way. Your button is 25 pixels high and you could set up the table accordingly. If you want a bit of space between buttons make them 27 with a middle align. I would also go as far as making it a table in a table.Guilty as charged.
Like i said i must be old skool and yes i do a lot of pixel counting. I am not a huge fan of CSS i mean i like it and ive seen some wild stuff done with it but i use it only when i need it. I was really surprised when i saw it used this way, very interesting.
As far as jetinter's question, I like tables and use tables in tables. To me it makes for easy removal and adjustments. I also get the perfect placement i want with a little for-thought of what will be in the table. I guess i'm just a table junky.
And i didn't mean to ramble on in this post.

[dxlwebs]

i believe that it depends on the type of site you are doing and the person i build 90% of all of my sites with css it gives you a lot more freedom to create a site that hasn't been seen before!

i even think its faster to build table less but like i said it all depends on the type of site you are do and you!

there is no right or wrong there is just the argument of New and Old!

[Kibondo]

I'm gonna have to say that tables in layouts are a big no-no these days. We've come a long way with CSS-based layouts, and no professional would even consider using tables for the sake of layout these days. Let tables display tabular data, and not define the look of a site, when it can be done just as easy with CSS.

Tables + layouts, for all intents and purposes, should be considered a dead technique.

[iLaunch]

You should definitely look into making the CSS switch. You should only use HTML for layout and CSS for all styles. However, that doesn't mean tables should never be used. If you have something that is to be displayed in a table, use one, thats what they are for.

[roje0913]

Using tables slows your loading time a bit but they have the least chance of degrading in older browsers. CSS is a must for all test formatting at least IMHO