WEB_I

Wow, slow section, I mod a few balckhat/guerilla forums and this one seems to be the slowest. Maybe its that ppl still think blackhat equals SPAM.....sorry those days are over and delivering themed/revelant pages to crawlers through IP Delievery is an effective solution....

why else would BMW and NY Times as well as Natinal Pubic Radio use it....it works...they got caught....yeah big deal....the cloaker that did it should be fired,now theres a good paying gig to get...Damn, not me

For those whitehats, i say this: Ethics are not in play here, its business competition,sorry.Until the "playing ground " is fair to begin with, ethics can't come into play.

some say that 80% of the top rankings are controlled by only 20% of the aggressive SEO's, be it grey or black.That doesnt include PPC, thats a whole other ballpark.Is it true, after 10 years at this,at this point ?....that now depends on industry, this is internet, world competition...not just the store around the corner from your bricks and morter business.

I have personally worked in every major competitive indusrty, casino, adult, pharma, credit card...etc and without blackhat and aggressive traffic buys you wont survive

The way those industries are now, I would not take the gig under 100k...for many reasons.....

Hopefully we should get some feedback here to see where this community stands on it...

Final thought: what is S.P.A.M ?

Sites Positioned Above ME, thats about it...really

NO, Blackhat SEO, cloaking ...the days of spam are over,its doesnt work! A well thought out approach,with the latest scripts out there,works.::PERIOD::.

Cheers

WEB_I

auctionadvertising

i think you're right.

and in fact, i'd rather pay to get listed than waste time to come up with new ways to spam my link to the top

WEB_I

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OpenG

It is very spooky and quiet around here. I hope there is a saloon in town where I can get a bourbon and put my feet up.

I guess Black hat seo is a bit of a leper, and nobody wants to even have their posts associated with the naughty term in any way.

But if you are going to avoid something, you have to know what it is you are avoiding.

But be careful, those stiff little fingers might get burned, and temptation can be a dangerous bed fellow.

One word of advice though. It is getting harder and harder to fool search engines. So much so that hard work, honesty and having something truly interesting to say are winning the day.

Now where is that drink

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i4u

Hi, we have been using some subdomain and multiple subdomain with different IP address's techniques with great results. Using the backlinks from our main sites, i4u.com.au and etourism.com.au we gain instant ranking with Google.

Its easy all you have to do is set up a sub domain and then make sure each sub domain has its own IP address and make subtle changes to the text and cells etc.

The best part of this is that you can have unlimited subdomains running off your main websites
Check it out here at the bottom of the page, i4u.com.au

and

goldcoast.i4u.com.au
goldcoastaccommodation.i4u.com.au
gold-coast-accommodation.i4u.com.au
gold-coast-accommodation.etourism.com.au
goldcoastaccommodation.etourism.com.au
goldcoast-accommodation.etourism.com.au
goldcoast.accommodation.etourism.com.au

WEB_I

Very true, no one wants to be associated with "fooling a search engine" frankly if you are in a highly competitive industry where conversions are tough, you really have no choice, since, white hat will not cut it anymore

As long as there is no spam involved, its a sense of high level coding to deliver targeted terms. trying to fool ppl is a bad thing, BUT bots, to me the game is wide open

Cheers

WEB_I

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