WEB_I

Thanks for adding this section guys. hopefully now we have and outlet that can really explain WHY blackhat seo tactics are used.If you still believe the days that blackhat SEO's are spamming everywhere to get results...those days are long over. what is called for now is delivering quantifiable traffic to clients and affiliates that coverts off high volumes.

Lets just say that the days of using "barney" to promote an adult site are long gone.....just like meta tags

looking forward to some great threads here

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swoopster

I don't know about you but in my minds eye. White Hat, Black Hat, Grey Hats are all pretty much the same. It's just the degree in the tactics used to get what you want separates each category.

If you are a White Hatter, then you launch a new site but you are not in any hurry to get ranked and not too worried about your competition.

The Grey Hatter is generally the newbie who wants his site listed as soon as possible and does internet research on getting ranked and tries almost every combination he/she finds. This person generally don't even know they are a Grey Hat.

The Black Hatter is the person that launches his site and wants to rank high within a few days or so. He is willing to Spam, Slam anything and anyone to get his site ranked.

So if you look at the 3 categories, they all want to get listed. So "You Walk Slow, You'll Get Left Behind". Most techniques used are legal so why not give a 100% to your site promotion. Just like any business, you have to out advertise your competition in order to gain more sells.

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WEB_I

Personally, I do alot of cloaking for clients so i guess I do BH SEO, BUT I do not use SPAN to get traffic, all my clients are in a situation where they have spent alot of money on the look and feel of the front end so cloaking PROPERLY done still delivers themed and relivant content.....the days of using 'barney" to drive traffic to an adult website for example are long over...do you know why ? because that traffic does not convert and after all thats what is all about CONVERSIONS. I look at it this way WH SEO is timed based and like fishing with a pole, BH SEO is more aggressive and its like "fishing with a net" using disposible domains.

See my profile and email me if your looking for more info

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onetwothree

The more competitive the keyword phrases are, the more you have to resort to testing the limits, otherwise it'll take to get to the top, if you ever get there. imo

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WEB_I

always push the limits.....your competition will

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BIZ-GIANT

Hello

Black hat has many shapes and sizes...

Many times it is used to reach top results and gain momentum
especially when you have much competion in that field.

Though anymore the google search engine is getting smarter and old
techniques like stuffing hidden paragraphs with keywords and a few other
little sneaky tricks dont work as well as it used to.... ummm not that i have

thx
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Darksat

Black Hat is generally used for throw away domains, grey hat in my opinion, is funny linking while keeping in page white hat.

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marketraise2007

The dark side of SEO known as Blackhat “BH "derives from the white hat and black hat label from the early hacker days. Because most people nowadays see hackers as someone who is evil and malicious, but really a hacker was just someone trying to learn more about computers, and gain more insight into it. Obviously once malicious hacking took place, it gave the term, “hacker” a really bad rep, so the good guys labeled the bad guys as black hatters, and themselves as white hatters.
For people that swear by only knowing white hat seo and never meddling in black hat, they are either lying, because everyone gets curious sometime (and let’s not forget, some tactics labeled BH now at some point was considered legal and WH years ago) or they are selling themselves short by not learning as much as they can about SEO.
I think people need to learn both parts. Even if they are so anti-black hat seo, it’s something you have to learn just to know or separate your methods and tactics with when optimizing a website for the search engines.

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elena29

Black hat SEOs are earning thousands of dollars each day, same as white hat SEOs. Sure it is unethical and sure it is not fair to practice such skills but on the other hand, at the end of the day, who is higher in the SERPs ?

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